I remember there used to be a story read out a lot on the platform about a guy who worked at bethel for 30 years making cheese for the restaurant. Turns out he's allergic to cheese or hates cheese or something and would have preferred another job but didn't say anything. This was always held out as a great example of being meek and submissive. It put me right off bethel tbh.
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Bethel experiences sound like a prison sentence.Why even go?
by goingthruthemotions inwhen i read about bethel experiences my mind go to the show locked up raw!.
why would someone subject themselves to this without commeting a crime.. the wife and i went to see bethel in broklyn a few years ago and it was unlike anything i expected.
very cold.. went the bosert hotel and was talking to a brother there and asked how long he had been there, he said 25 years...i asked how old he was.
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Can JW's get themselves sterilized?
by Splash incan you be sexually sterilised?no, it is absolutely wrong - w59 7/1 p. 416 questions from readers.
however, it is absolutely wrong for a person to think that in order to stay free for the kingdom service and avoid family responsibilities in the way of children he is justified in getting himself sexually sterilized.. .
no, it is harmful - w61 12/1 p. 735 questions from readers.
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I had no idea there was such a flip-flop policy on this, and such strange reasoning esp 78 & 79.
Maybe they took being black balled and not being allowed to join the club too literally. Although if you are literally black balled you can't get anyone in the club, which means you cant even be a publisher. So... wait I'm confused. What was my point again :-S
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My First Post!
by NoMoreHustle ini won't be lengthy on this.
i have been in the org for about 20yrs.
now & woke up about 2yrs ago.
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<p>welcome Nomorehustle :-) it's funny isn't it those little niggles you put to the back of your mind and then when you research a bit it's oh that's why it didn't make sense! It's because it's a house of cards. That first card is superglued in place though and hard to budge.</p>
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Will the JW.Org Site make a difference ?
by Phizzy init will obviously make a difference to how jw's obtain their literatrash, they will have to download and print it all themselves before long.. it will make a small difference to the dtod work, they will now refer even genuine questions and interest etc to the site, not taking the opportunity to "witness" on the initial call at all.
this has been happening already to a degree.. the difference i am mainly interested in is the capture of new suckers in to the borg.. we will be able to see when we get 2014's figures, sometime next year, what the rate of increase was over the last ten years.. phizzy the prophet predicts that the rate of increase over the next ten years will not be significantly up.
probably down, but certainly, i feel, not so different from the last ten.. should i be around in ten years to do so, i will wish to ask jw's:.
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<p>People generally seem to be pretty aware of JWs and whether being one would interest them. I doubt the website will make much difference to recruitment. There's always a few lost souls or damaged individuals looking for solace in religion and the JWs will gladly swallow them up. slightly OT but I wonder if they'd ever start up their own JW social network site to keep the existing dubs in (and keep tabs on them)</p>
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some thing to consider for bible believers
by Crazyguy inthe oldest in tact bible found is the codex voronicus, (miss spelled) and the oldest writings ever found were the greek septuagint written by jews in alexandria.
both of these collections of writings included the apocryphal and other writings like chapters and other verses of daniel not included in the jw bible.
so the question one must ask, is if your a bible believer how can you just throw out these writings, because reading these additional writings will change your understanding of what you have learned?.
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The apocryphal books are interesting. I've only read excerpts that have been included in biblical study books so am largely ignorant of their contents.
Thanks for the links to your research Doug. I'll read those pdfs tomorrow.
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JW.org Health Tips brochure
by LogCon inbesides 'walking briskly from door-to-door'.... what advice would fit in well to a jw.
org health tips brochure ?.
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Put each hand in the air for 100 reps to build up answering strength for the meetings.
Carry a literature bag of around 15 kilos door to door. This will motivate you to place as much as possible.
Practice for sitting at district conventions by unloading a fridge and scrunching yourself up in it for 8 hours. A small wardrobe may suffice if too cold.
Prepare yourself for a JW wedding reception by getting the family to do a barn dance on an evening. The kids will love it more than xbox. If family members break into any other form of dance reprimand them or slap them (this is also good exercise)
Exercise your eyelids to keep open at meetings by playing kingdom melody "Lazarus lies sleeping" while reading the latest watchtower at 2am every night.
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The epitome of cognitive dissonance
by sir82 init is rare to get such a startling, sparkling, perfect example of this.. here is a snippet of a conversion going on at jwtalk.net regarding israel/gaza:.
http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/16268-peace-security-news/.
every one who is in the world today and dies tomorrow is in line for a ressurection.this is their best way of being in the new world.
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I wonder how many jws would go along with the org if it turned violent? The preaching has stagnated, we can save more by killing them and sending them straight to paradise.
if the experiments by milgrom and zimbardo are anything to go by, probably the majority. Especially after so lng being brainwashed.
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A peek in to future of transportation
by jgnat intrends include self-driving clean vehicles and temporary leasing rather than buying vehicles (the driverless vehicle arrives to pick you up, and you drop it off at your destination).
the result?
1/8 the traffic on existing roads!
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self driving cars are going to be legal in the UK from next year apparently. I like the idea, but then I really hate driving whereas some people love it.
the technology begin it has really accelerated the past few years, and I'm assuming the legal concerns regarding who's at fault in crashes must have been sorted too.
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lol @ skinnedsheep. This is good though. As soon as cults get all apocalyptic it means they'll inevitably fall on their faces later.
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I just loved "Moley" life in the new system thread but I have more to add.
by booker-t inmoley i just loved your thread on life in the new system but i was also wondering what will happen if old testament patriachs such as noah, abel, moses and others decide they do not want to be jws in the new system will they be destroyed by jehovah and jesus after all of their faithful service?
i have always wondered about this because they are not guranteed everlasting life until they past the final test after the 1000 year reign of jesus.
what happens if moses is angry with jehovah after he is reserrected and cannot believe it took so long 4000 years for the great tribulation will he be wiped out instantly.
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After 1000 yrs of picking fruit and stroking a panda everyone will be glad to call it a day, including the patriarchs.
I seem to recall the armageddon in the dark being in an illustration. Might have been in the revelation book.